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    Fletch starting to look the part in Premiership

    Just watched Fletcher grab another goal for Burnley on MOTD. He also set up their late equaliser. Think he's scored 5 or 6 goals for them now. I think a lot of us felt he was a bit over-hyped due to the fact he was so left-footed, but he's always been very highly regarded by the managerial fraternity and he did score a decent number of goals for Hibs. Be interesting to see if he continues to progress down south as there are barely any SCOTTISH players from the SPL who can hold their own at that level these days. Craig Gordon, I guess, has done quite well but he's in and out of the Sunderland team, while Garry O'Connor and James McFadden are only fleetingly effective. Haven't seen enough of Barry Ferguson and Christophe Berra to know if they've been doing well or not. Any others?
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    His touch down for McDonalds goal was class.

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    Just watched Fletcher grab another goal for Burnley on MOTD. He also set up their late equaliser. Think he's scored 5 or 6 goals for them now. I think a lot of us felt he was a bit over-hyped due to the fact he was so left-footed, but he's always been very highly regarded by the managerial fraternity and he did score a decent number of goals for Hibs. Be interesting to see if he continues to progress down south.


    I'm starting to think Fletch should have gone sooner. He has improved already after stagnating at Hibs for 2 years. We'd also have got more cash for him.

    Good luck to him-he's looking like one of the few Scots who might actually do ok down south in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mag7 View Post
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    Just watched Fletcher grab another goal for Burnley on MOTD. He also set up their late equaliser. Think he's scored 5 or 6 goals for them now. I think a lot of us felt he was a bit over-hyped due to the fact he was so left-footed, but he's always been very highly regarded by the managerial fraternity and he did score a decent number of goals for Hibs. Be interesting to see if he continues to progress down south as there are barely any SCOTTISH players from the SPL who can hold their own at that level these days. Craig Gordon, I guess, has done quite well but he's in and out of the Sunderland team, while Garry O'Connor and James McFadden are only fleetingly effective. Haven't seen enough of Barry Ferguson and Christophe Berra to know if they've been doing well or not. Any others?
    He's doing well and fair play to him But his one-sidedness is embarrassing for a pro IMHO

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    craig gordon had just got back into the starting eleven for sunderland but will be out for a spell again as he broke his arm today against spurs.

    im proud to see fletch doing so well, and has staked his place in the burnley team

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    I'm starting to think Fletch should have gone sooner. He has improved already after stagnating at Hibs for 2 years. We'd also have got more cash for him.

    Good luck to him-he's looking like one of the few Scots who might actually do ok down south in recent years.
    I'm not sure we could have got more for him two years ago but he did strike me as a player who needed a move to fulfil the potential many think he has. The best thing Hibs did for his career was to refuse to let him talk to Celtic last year. He really WOULD have stagnated there.

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    craig gordon had just got back into the starting eleven for sunderland but will be out for a spell again as he broke his arm today against spurs.

    im proud to see fletch doing so well, and has staked his place in the burnley team
    Gordon is vastly over-rated (and not because he's a plukey ex-yam. He just ain't that wonderful a keeper - just ask most Sunderland fans). Keane has always struck me as a little deranged, and he proved it by shelling out £9m on Gordon. Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mag7 View Post
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    Gordon is vastly over-rated (and not because he's a plukey ex-yam. He just ain't that wonderful a keeper - just ask most Sunderland fans). Keane has always struck me as a little deranged, and he proved it by shelling out £9m on Gordon. Ridiculous.
    I have to disagree. Craig Gordon even though he is a yam fud, is one of the best keepers in the Premier League IMO. £9M is a bargain IMO of course

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    For me, Gordon's a player that has his on and off days.

    On his best days, he's one of the best goalies in the league.

    But on his poor days.... he's well down there.

    So although he can be fantastic at times.... he's far to inconsistent to be rated one of the overall best goalies in the League IMO.

    Still.... Fantastic for Scotland.

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    Just watched Fletcher grab another goal for Burnley on MOTD. He also set up their late equaliser. Think he's scored 5 or 6 goals for them now. I think a lot of us felt he was a bit over-hyped due to the fact he was so left-footed, but he's always been very highly regarded by the managerial fraternity and he did score a decent number of goals for Hibs. Be interesting to see if he continues to progress down south as there are barely any SCOTTISH players from the SPL who can hold their own at that level these days. Craig Gordon, I guess, has done quite well but he's in and out of the Sunderland team, while Garry O'Connor and James McFadden are only fleetingly effective. Haven't seen enough of Barry Ferguson and Christophe Berra to know if they've been doing well or not. Any others?
    This excuse for a defender is getting ripped every other week in the premiership. I have been watching his game since his move from Hawrts, and said he would get found out for the average player that he is. He turns his back every time someone has a shot at goal, and it's cost wolves points.

    Fletcher on the other hand is coming along nicely and under Coyle is getting better every week. Scored today and set up the winner for another good Scotsman McDonald

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    This excuse for a defender is getting ripped every other week in the premiership. I have been watching his game since his move from Hawrts, and said he would get found out for the average player that he is. He turns his back every time someone has a shot at goal, and it's cost wolves points.

    Fletcher on the other hand is coming along nicely and under Coyle is getting better every week. Scored today and set up the winner for another good Scotsman McDonald
    Only a matter of time before McDonald is a regular start for Burnley and in time a better side. He's just turned 21 and scored two against Arsenal, and scored at Stamford Bridge and Eastlands from midfield with limited starts. He's one we should've had.
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    Only a matter of time before McDonald is a regular start for Burnley and in time a better side. He's just turned 21 and scored two against Arsenal, and scored at Stamford Bridge and Eastlands from midfield with limited starts. He's one we should've had.

    Agreed then and do still now. Should have snapped him up!

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    My granny could have tapped in that goal as good as Fletcher. How we got £2.5m or whatever it was for him I'll never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibsNibs View Post
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    My granny could have tapped in that goal as good as Fletcher. How we got £2.5m or whatever it was for him I'll never know.
    Great run though to create the space to tap it in.

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    Great run though to create the space to tap it in.
    Aye - true. Nice header too to make the 3rd I suppose

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    He's doing well and fair play to him But his one-sidedness is embarrassing for a pro IMHO
    He's now scored two with his right and had another wrongly disallowed since his move Some Hibs fans made too much of his one-footedness IMO.

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    He's now scored two with his right and had another wrongly disallowed since his move Some Hibs fans made too much of his one-footedness IMO.
    Either that or since he moved he's at last begun to put in the work on his right foot that he should have put in years ago at Hibs (and Lewis should be putting in now).

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    Agreed then and do still now. Should have snapped him up!
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    Just watched Fletcher grab another goal for Burnley on MOTD. He also set up their late equaliser. Think he's scored 5 or 6 goals for them now. I think a lot of us felt he was a bit over-hyped due to the fact he was so left-footed, but he's always been very highly regarded by the managerial fraternity and he did score a decent number of goals for Hibs. Be interesting to see if he continues to progress down south as there are barely any SCOTTISH players from the SPL who can hold their own at that level these days. Craig Gordon, I guess, has done quite well but he's in and out of the Sunderland team, while Garry O'Connor and James McFadden are only fleetingly effective. Haven't seen enough of Barry Ferguson and Christophe Berra to know if they've been doing well or not. Any others?
    Broken arm for Spotty yesterday after an un-necessary collision with Defoe!

    Defoe was never getting the ball and should have pulled out of the "tackle"!

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    I have to disagree. Craig Gordon even though he is a yam fud, is one of the best keepers in the Premier League IMO. £9M is a bargain IMO of course
    You obviously haven't seen him play for Sunderland!!!

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    Defoe was never getting the ball and should have pulled out of the "tackle"!
    Hope he gets retrospectively done for that. Nae need at all.

    What about Bent's dive for the pen though? Started about thirty seconds before he got near Gomes. Shearer: "it was a pen - ok he started to go down early, but he made the pen" FFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TornadoHibby View Post
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    Broken arm for Spotty yesterday after an un-necessary collision with Defoe!

    Defoe was never getting the ball and should have pulled out of the "tackle"!
    Personally, i think defoe did ok there.

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    Fletcher may well get double figures in the Premiership this season which would be a good benchmark for next season if Burnley stay up. He has also had a few assists and goals in the cup.

    Well done Fletcher

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    Either that or since he moved he's at last begun to put in the work on his right foot that he should have put in years ago at Hibs (and Lewis should be putting in now).
    I suppose thats possible, although it hasnt been that long since he moved. Can you go from zero to hero on your bad foot in just a few months? i suppose only a professional coach could tell us that...

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    Fletcher is the best player (so far) to come through our youth system since John Collins and I have been saying this since I first saw him play. He was our best player last year by some distance and without him I think we would have had a real relegation battle on our hands.

    He is settling in nicely in the Premiership and even if Burnley were to go down he will get an even bigger move to bigger side, his movement for his goal yesterday was superb which made it look easy and then his set up play for McDonalds goal was excellent. Man City's defence cost best part of £50m to assemble, he scored one and set up another. Not bad for a player that cost Burnley less than a year of Tevez's wages....

    It really pisses me off how negative some hibs fans are about Fletch. What has he ever done to deserve this?

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    He really is looking the part and glad hes making it. Not going to be prolific, never has been (although 6 goals in 14 appearances is pretty good!), but he has so many parts to his game that if he keeps developing will do well in the Premiership.

    Surely hes proving that he should be the first choice striker for Scotland, he brings so much more than most of the other strikers in the squad (him and Faddy are our two best strikers imo), if Burley sticks with that lump of pish Miller in a 4-5-1 we are never going to progress.

    Think Berra and Gordon have taken a bit of stick in this thread, Gordon is absolute quality but has been unlucky with injuries, and Berra is solid enough for Scotland, and a better option than the OF muppets.

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    He's doing well and fair play to him But his one-sidedness is embarrassing for a pro IMHO
    He's a new player in that division, playing for an unknown quantity. There's a chance that once other Premiership teams work Burnley out, Fletcher will find it harder. Great defenders know how to show a player onto his weaker foot.

    However, a great performance from him yesterday - his movement and awareness are both top class, and he is doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Quiet_Man View Post
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    He's doing well and fair play to him But his one-sidedness is embarrassing for a pro IMHO
    IMHO Van Persie is totally one-sided too but he's on fire!. Did you see him against Wolves last night? He rounded the keeper about 3 times just to get a shot with his left peg. In the end he just lost the ball.

    Good to see Fletcher playing well though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    This excuse for a defender is getting ripped every other week in the premiership. I have been watching his game since his move from Hawrts, and said he would get found out for the average player that he is. He turns his back every time someone has a shot at goal, and it's cost wolves points.

    Fletcher on the other hand is coming along nicely and under Coyle is getting better every week. Scored today and set up the winner for another good Scotsman McDonald
    I was watching Birmingham v Wolves last season where Birmingham won the game and Berra made an absolute pig's ear of a long ball for Birmingham's goal. The summariser's comment was 'maybe he should've spent more time at Hearts working on his defending rather than acting as a shop steward over unpaid wages'.

    Ouch and ouch.

    His positional play has been shown to be poor and he's not strong enough.

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