It makes me sick! How could it happen?

[MrSmith]

I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

[James Connolly]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

This is mirrored in most pubs in Edinburgh & the Lothians.

My local is 80% Celtc; the vast majority of them being ESPN/Sky fans!!

The boozer up the road is classed as a Rangers pub.

The whole thing is frightening!!

[CalgaryHibs]

This is a fact of life , but everytime i'm home i see more and more OF tops aroond Edinburgh.
Most people want to cheer for ae winna and they decide to do this and other clubs suffer from this. Back in the 50's-60's most teams had huge support as yoo may know but time are different and we will never see it again.

[Just Jimmy]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

It's a we want it now society, folk want to be part of something successful, the old firm win. Simples.

[MrSmith]

All ma bairns are fae Edinburgh and all support the Hibs!

I cant understand parents who allow their kids to go down the OF route?? I'm not criticising, just feel really disappointed in terms of, we live in a great city with a great culture and history of football yet they want to be part of a culture which has a history of sectarianism and nothing really in common with our home!

I work in Glasgow and will admit to enjoying it immensely but for purposes of living there or my safety no thanks!

[CalgaryHibs]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

come to think of it , i've had a pint or two in this pub...........

[MrSmith]

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come to think of it , i've had a pint or two in this pub...........

and...your no much older than me!

drunk in there from 1983 to 2000 regularly not so just now.

[Dashing Bob S]

It was at Hamilton, where we had a huge support but I was thinking how old everybody looked. I think in about 50 years time nobody will go to football, (inc the Glasgow clubs) they'll buy Celtic/Rangers, or once they stop getting into the CL after next year Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool/Man City tops.

Football sold its soul from being a community-based enterprise to an aspirational, entertainment industry, tv-driven success-by-proxy undertaking years ago. We're now reaping the consequences.

I think club football in Scotland will be pretty much within the next few generations.

[Hainan Hibs]

Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

[AK86]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

too right, its your duty as a Hibby to bring your kids up in the faith
Its a form of cruelty! but hey, if I have to go thru it ,so do they

[James Connolly]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

Maybe a tad harsh?

My boy stays in Dumbarton (Celtic stronghold); and he's proud to be, probably the only Hibs supporter there!

[jakedance]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

Spot on. I've got a wee nephew approaching 2 years old who'll shortly begin his indocrination. His Dad's a Geordie too so he'll likely have two pish teams. Poor lad.

[MrSmith]

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Spot on. I've got a wee nephew approaching 2 years old who'll shortly begin his indocrination. His Dad's a Geordie too so he'll likely have two pish teams. Poor lad.

Yep we do have it hard all mines are Newcastle sympathizers also....

[Alfred E Newman]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

Thats true but it has its down sides as well. If it wasn`t for my son dragging me along at times I would probably have given up the ghost years ago. However, its off to Motherwell we go!

[CalgaryHibs]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

agree!

[basehibby]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

Without being too over the top or reactionary....




SHOOT THE GLORY HUNTING WEE SHEIGHTS!

[persevere1875]

Maybe when they bugger of too the EPL 2, they'll all mend their ways, cant see too many buses leaving for a Wed night game in Portsmouth somehow

[Baader]

Much as I dislike seeing Yams top around Edinburgh I at least respect the fact they support their local team and can't be accused of glory hunting.

Old Firm fans in Edinburgh - unless they hail from the West - are just pathetic. I mind at Holyrood (school) virtually everyone from the south side of the city claimed allegiance with Celtic (although the Hibees outnumbered them ) Maist of them the furthest West they got was Shandwick Place. I'll still wager I've been to Parkhead more times than they have.

Noone that knows their fitba takes those wanabee Weedgies seriously though - some people just want to be associated with success. I've noticed an increase in the number of Man City I'm seeing down here recently - and I live just along from the Emirates in North London!

[iwasthere1972]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!
Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

They're either late for the Hearts game last week or they are leaving in plenty time for next week.

Just a bunch of glory hunting barstewards. No other explanation for it.

[IWasThere2016]

Personally, I don't think Hibs do enough to attract fans (kids especially).

Rather than invest in the East Stand I'd be really tempted to use the funds to subsidise - even free - tickets in the short/medium term to 'hook' fans in, and grow the fan base.

[aljo7-0]

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Personally, I don't think Hibs do enough to attract fans (kids especially).

Rather than invest in the East Stand I'd be really tempted to use the funds to subsidise - even free - tickets in the short/medium term to 'hook' fans in, and grow the fan base.

Not a bad idea. The Hibs Kids who are not season ticket holders get 4 free games this year starting with next Saturday's game against Utd. Season ticket holders get to bring a friend. Great value for the £10 membership and will allow me to risk taking my youngest (she's probably still a bit too young to enjoy it fully) who is quite jealous of big sis getting to the games. Neither of my girls particularly likes football but there is no doubt which team they support and I think getting to the games and feeling part of the Hibee family is a big factor. In fact the wee one aged 3 at nursery when askled to sing a song at the end of the morning (usually the kids will pick Twinkle Twinkle) burst into Glory Glory to the Hibees much to my delight but to the consternsation of her Yam nursery teacher. Brilliant .... who says indoctination is a bad thing.

[MrSmith]

They also appear not to do much community work particularly in Edinburgh South!

My boys all go to St John Vianney's School in the Inch. I'll give credit to Hearts here because they at least show up and do some work with the kids but hibs? no!

More school and community work needed to convince these youngsters of hibs worth in Edinburgh and the Lothians as a whole.

[(((Fergus)))]

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Any Hibs fan that has a son who doesn't support Hibs has failed as a parent. Simple as that.

Bit sexist that, otherwise spot on. Don't forget the cousins either.

[Hainan Hibs]

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Bit sexist that, otherwise spot on. Don't forget the cousins either.

Women shouldn't be at Football anyway.

[Chuckie]

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I was born and brought up in Gracemount. My local bar for over 25 years was the Captains Cabin and now the Marmion.

Previously and more so today, I have seen many Celtic fans occupying this pub and the local area. When I was a lad drinking there, the split in the pub was about 50-50 maybe a little more jambos but there was little, 2 that I recall, OF fans!! Now I find out that there is a few buses leaving the pub for Parkhead!

Just what is going on here? traditional Hibs/Hearts supporting areas are now going to Galsgow?? It makes me sick to see this and what I cant understand is the amount of kids being brought up up here to support Celtic!!!

I'd be more concerned about the other issues in this once great pub.

The landlord has lost the pub and it is run by the locals.

He is too afraid to come in to the bar and lets the young bar staff run it, and they don't give a monkeys or are too afraid/inexperienced to lay down the law.

It's a free for all where anything goes and is a total ***** pit.

Far too many pink tops in there for my liking. That smelly old guy with the Jim Royle beard with 'Jesus' on the big of his maroon rag makes me boak.

Bar staff are all Hibees though.

[(((Fergus)))]

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I'd be more concerned about the other issues in this once great pub.

The landlord has lost the pub and it is run by the locals.

He is too afraid to come in to the bar and lets the young bar staff run it, and they don't give a monkeys or are too afraid/inexperienced to lay down the law.

It's a free for all where anything goes and is a total ***** pit.

Far too many pink tops in there for my liking. That smelly old guy with the Jim Royle beard with 'Jesus' on the big of his maroon rag makes me boak.

Bar staff are all Hibees though.

Not enough suits?

[Chuckie]

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Not enough suits?

Ooo suits you sir!!

[MrSmith]

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I'd be more concerned about the other issues in this once great pub.

The landlord has lost the pub and it is run by the locals.

He is too afraid to come in to the bar and lets the young bar staff run it, and they don't give a monkeys or are too afraid/inexperienced to lay down the law.

It's a free for all where anything goes and is a total ***** pit.

Far too many pink tops in there for my liking. That smelly old guy with the Jim Royle beard with 'Jesus' on the big of his maroon rag makes me boak.

Bar staff are all Hibees though.

Was in there on Thursday - bar has lost all it's character resembling something like a scene out of Shameless! I'm going to mail the brewery to complain as they have a responsibility to the community considering the amount of money they have taken out of it since inception around 50 years ago.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Good thread. I was just thinking that I've never seen so many huns wearing tops in my life in Leith , I even saw a daft (but nervous looking) lassie today in Lochend wi a yam top on

WTF??

[rightwinger]

This is a good thread.

I think the earlier posts have pretty much covered the main points.

40/50/60 years ago, with very little tv coverage and minimal radio coverage, you supported a local team or you didn't watch football. The obvious result was a more equal playing field in terms of fanbase and revenue.

Now, with Sky tv and the internet, you can attend little or no games but still watch your team live most weeks. With the cost of going to games these days, the majority aren't going to attend games week in week out if their team's not winning.

It is certainly sad to see people from Edinburgh ditching Hibs and Hearts to support Rangers and Celtic. It's not something unique to Scotland though, people from all across England support Man Utd and those from all across Spain support Real and Barca. As some have suggested, it's the fact that Rangers and Celtic are - for clubs of their supposed stature - both rubbish that's probably the most galling thing.

A lot of us have probably seen Celtic and Rangers play more than many of the OF fans about.