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**Hibby 2005** · 22-09-2009 09:47 PM

4 midfielders brought in, a striker and a goalie - no defenders.

We already had Murray and Bamba for the midfield, why get McBride and Gregg?

Jones needed replacing but Yogi didn't think we had to or couldn't get anybody, big mistake.

RB had to be addressed but wasn't.

Yogi's not a newcomer so why the basic mistakes?

***Jones28*** · 22-09-2009 09:52 PM

Perhaps thought that he had a few decent defenders in Hogg, Murray and Bamba? FWIW I think that Yogi has brought in some quality players, but on tonights eveidence he is still looking for the right combination at the back.

**archiebald** · 22-09-2009 09:54 PM

Oh how we need a center half to control the defence or it will happen every week,Hughes should at least admit we need one and he cant find one.THIS IS BAD

**~~Alicky Ranks~~** · 22-09-2009 10:10 PM

I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

***Bayern Bru*** · 22-09-2009 10:12 PM

Behave yourself.

**~~Speedway~~** · 22-09-2009 10:12 PM

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4 midfielders brought in, a striker and a goalie - no defenders.

We already had Murray and Bamba for the midfield, why get McBride and Gregg?

Because we had no right sided players. Who is Gregg?

Jones needed replacing but Yogi didn't think we had to or couldn't get anybody, big mistake.

That's right, the money offered for Livesey wasn't enough for Carlisle to part with him.
RB had to be addressed but wasn't.

Still being addressed.

Yogi's not a newcomer so why the basic mistakes?

Because buying a whole new team is not as easy as you make it out to be.

***Hiber-nation*** · 22-09-2009 10:12 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

FFS he's had half a dozen games. We need stability at the club and I am sure he'll sort all this out if he's given the time he deserves. We've been pish for 2 years - it can't be turned around overnight.

**~~Speedway~~** · 22-09-2009 10:14 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

Yes, he took his last club to the brink of relegation and this time, he won't make the same mistake. We'll go down for definite and when we do, it will be exactly what the fans deserve.

**Hibs90** · 22-09-2009 10:14 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

Sniff.

**Sammy7nil** · 22-09-2009 10:14 PM

far too early to judge

GC · 22-09-2009 10:14 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

Jesus Christ!

Wonder how this place would react if we ever had REAL problems at the club.

***Hiber-nation*** · 22-09-2009 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hibby 2005

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4 midfielders brought in, a striker and a goalie - no defenders.

We already had Murray and Bamba for the midfield, why get McBride and Gregg?

Jones needed replacing but Yogi didn't think we had to or couldn't get anybody, big mistake.

RB had to be addressed but wasn't.

Yogi's not a newcomer so why the basic mistakes?

Not you again - never give up do you?

**Hibby 2005** · 22-09-2009 10:16 PM

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Because buying a whole new team is not as easy as you make it out to be.

It's all about priorities non?

**zlatan** · 22-09-2009 10:16 PM

Whilst it's still far to early for this kind of chat it is a genuine concern that he's not been able to get a decent performance, bar Celtic in spells, out of what I honestly think is the 3rd best squad in the league by some distance.

He's had more than enough time to come up with a system to suit but appears to have picked a rotten one and is reluctant to change it, I'm sure he will see the error of his ways soon though...

**Davy Mac** · 22-09-2009 10:17 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

Aberdeen fans might be asking the same about Mark McGhee.

Nah, John Hughes will be fine but I would like to see a bit more talking and passion from somebody in the middle of the park.

Still think we need an experienced head somewhere in the team who can chivvy up the players etc when the going gets tough.

**~~Mag7~~** · 22-09-2009 10:19 PM

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I wonder if Rod Petrie is starting to worry about the cash he freed up for Yogi to use on players. Seems we've cleared a lot of dead wood and replaced it with new wood - of the lightweight balsa variety. How can a manager who constantly preaches passion for the game and will talk Hibs from dusk till dawn put a side on the pitch which seems to care not a jot for the game or the club?

Exactly. The lack of passion in the second half of Collins' reign and for most of Mixu's tenure was depressing but this lot look like they couldn't care less.

**Hibby 2005** · 22-09-2009 10:19 PM

Mixu was inexperienced, Yogi isn't and claims to know what needs done.

**~~Speedway~~** · 22-09-2009 10:23 PM

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It's all about priorities non?

Oui and we buy our new players according to the new manager's priorities coupled with who he can actually get and we take to the field with new players and new manager and are still crap.

What does this tell you?

**~~Mag7~~** · 22-09-2009 10:23 PM

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Jesus Christ!

Wonder how this place would react if we ever had REAL problems at the club.

REAL problems will come soon enough on current evidence. We'll get beat on Saturday (by a side put together on a couple of brass buttons but by a manager who looks a lot more clued up than Yogi about how to get the best out of his players) and then watch us slide quickly into lowly Hearts territory.

**borders.cabbage** · 22-09-2009 10:28 PM

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Aberdeen fans might be asking the same about Mark McGhee.

Nah, John Hughes will be fine but I would like to see a bit more talking and passion from somebody in the middle of the park.

Still think we need an experienced head somewhere in the team who can chivvy up the players etc when the going gets tough.

Ian Murray should be doing this, he was wearing the captains armband tonight wasn't he ?
Total lack of leadership tonight.

**~~Alicky Ranks~~** · 22-09-2009 10:30 PM

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Jesus Christ!

Wonder how this place would react if we ever had REAL problems at the club.

We've had real problems ever since we won the cup in 2007 yet a lot on here seem to think finishing sixth three seasons running (in addition to crashing out of the CIS three seasons running to teams you'd expect to beat at home) is nothing to get bothered about. Folk also bemoan the lack of atmosphere at ER these days. Well if most the fans ain't really that bothered then why should the players be?

And yes, I know things have been much worse, but these days we have an infrastructure in place that should make this club more than capable of finishing best of the rest on a regular basis. It ain't happening and that to me is a real problem.

GC · 22-09-2009 10:32 PM

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REAL problems will come soon enough on current evidence. We'll get beat on Saturday (by a side put together on a couple of brass buttons but by a manager who looks a lot more clued up than Yogi about how to get the best out of his players) and then watch us slide quickly into lowly Hearts territory.

Can you give me the lottery number for Saturday, seeing as you already know we will get beat by Motherwell.

This place is beyond belief, I'm pissed off with tonight's result and the performances I have witnessed at times this season aswell but I'm realistic enough to know we're at the start of a road to building a squad at Hibs.

No REAL problems at Hibs at the moment Mag, none on the horizon either.

**~~Speedway~~** · 22-09-2009 10:34 PM

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Can you give me the lottery number for Saturday, seeing as you already know we will get beat by Motherwell.

This place is beyond belief, I'm pissed off with tonight's result and the performances I have witnessed at times this season aswell but I'm realistic enough to know we're at the start of a road to building a squad at Hibs.

No REAL problems at Hibs at the moment Mag, none on the horizon either.

Except perhaps a third consecutive operating loss requiring the selling of players or eating into of banked capital?

GC · 22-09-2009 10:35 PM

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We've had real problems ever since we won the cup in 2007 yet a lot on here seem to think finishing sixth three seasons running (in addition to crashing out of the CIS three seasons running to teams you'd expect to beat at home) is nothing to get bothered about. Folk also bemoan the lack of atmosphere at ER these days. Well if most the fans ain't really that bothered then why should the players be?

And yes, I know things have been much worse, but these days we have an infrastructure in place that should make this club more than capable of finishing best of the rest on a regular basis. It ain't happening and that to me is a real problem.

I would suggest some form of mood control pill for you if this is the reaction to a defeat in the cup, no matter how bad the result/performance is it does not equate to real problems at the club.

**Davy Mac** · 22-09-2009 10:35 PM

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Ian Murray should be doing this, he was wearing the captains armband tonight wasn't he ?
Total lack of leadership tonight.

That's partly my point, I don't think we have a motivational type player on the park who booms out instructions and kicks asses whenever it's required.

Murray likes to lead by example granted, but for me Hibs need a player who is a right pain in the arse, somebody who constantly needles his own players.

Don't know about you but all the amateur teams I've played for I can think of at least 2 or 3 guys per team which I wouldnae have wanted to be the one to let these guys down.

GC · 22-09-2009 10:37 PM

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Except perhaps a third consecutive operating loss requiring the selling of players or eating into of banked capital?

I don't know how the season will pan out, I still believe we can get into Europe, we may reach a semi final in the Scottish(we may also go out in the 3rd round) that would result in more finances for the club obviously and counter the loss that this defeat will cost us, I said on an earlier thread that this defeat would be horrendous and is it but not on the scale that some are pointing at.

So until that happens I'll go with the flow and address issues as and when they arrive.

I think I'm on my own with this one but all the way I feel.

**Hibby 2005** · 22-09-2009 10:43 PM

Riordan will be sold sooner rather than later, shame about the penalties.

**Riordans Boots** · 22-09-2009 10:43 PM

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I don't know how the season will pan out, I still believe we can get into Europe, we may reach a semi final in the Scottish(we may also go out in the 3rd round) that would result in more finances for the club obviously and counter the loss that this defeat will cost us, I said on an earlier thread that this defeat would be horrendous and is it but not on the scale that some are pointing at.

So until that happens I'll go with the flow and address issues as and when they arrive.

I think I'm on my own with this one but all the way I feel.

No your not G

**RickyS** · 22-09-2009 10:44 PM

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That's partly my point, I don't think we have a motivational type player on the park who booms out instructions and kicks asses whenever it's required.

Murray likes to lead by example granted, but for me Hibs need a player who is a right pain in the arse, somebody who constantly needles his own players.

Don't know about you but all the amateur teams I've played for I can think of at least 2 or 3 guys per team which I wouldnae have wanted to be the one to let these guys down.

Like Jody Morris did tonight