How bad is Hoggy getting these days. I dont know whether its added resposibilty by getting the captains armband or what but he seems to clueless on the park.
How many times did we see him punt the ball aimlessly up front with no celtic player beside him?!! And how many times did he challenge for a header with another hibs player?!!
He has been solid at the back for a few seasons now, but i think he is trying to do too much.
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30-08-2009 03:14 PM #1First Team Breakthrough
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How bad is Hogg?!!
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30-08-2009 03:17 PM #2First Team Regular
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I think we are beginning to see how much Jones carried Hogg over the past couple of seasons.
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30-08-2009 03:18 PM #3First Team Regular
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seems to be getting worse each game he plays. He has had a poor start to the season,dont know if the captaincy thing has got to him? Hope he picks up.
His passing was poor and i dont think he won a single header against Samaras.
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Yep , i said last week that for me it's Yogi's fist big Boo Boo, no pun intended!
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30-08-2009 03:23 PM #5Coaching Staff
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I think playing alongside a no-nonsense defender like Jones suited Hogg. He'd win the ball and boot it up the park. I think playing alongside people who want too pass the ball around the edge of the box gives him the heebie-geebies. I think McCormack's due a run in is role.
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30-08-2009 03:23 PM #6@hibs.net private member
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I actually thought Hogg was much improved today
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30-08-2009 03:27 PM #7@hibs.net private member
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Not played well this season, as said maybe the captaincy's too much for him, should've gave it to Murray. I'm sure I heard Yogi say that no-one is guaranteed a game even if you are the captain or not, you play on merit.
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30-08-2009 03:28 PM #8Left by mutual consent!
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Who else would have him ?, not many i would guess. players should progress but if anything he has gone backwards.
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30-08-2009 03:41 PM #9Testimonial Due
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He struggled when he found himself marking Samaras. Not the biggest fan as he does seem to get bossed from time to time. Would imagine Yogi will be the best judge and for the moment prefers him in there as Bamba is relatively inexperienced in what he feels is his best role at CH. Certianly nobody bosses Bamba. Hopefully we wont touch Anderson. Much prefer Darren Barr.
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30-08-2009 03:43 PM #10Testimonial Due
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Bamba was A CH for the Pars.
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Originally Posted by sahib
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True but in a lower division though.
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30-08-2009 03:48 PM #12Testimonial Due
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Yeah but he was considered raw and he still needs game time in this position. Originally Posted by JC50
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well if that was an improvement,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Originally Posted by hibee_girl
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if as others are saying we are gonna be signing barr + arfield
we should get barr in as a partner to bamba and murray in as captain
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30-08-2009 03:50 PM #14Coaching Staff
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Couldn't understand why Hogg marked Samaras and Bamba McDonald-wrong way round surely.
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30-08-2009 03:51 PM #15Testimonial Due
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Could anyone distinguish Hogg from Caldwell today? Headers going to the opposition, world-cup diagonal passes, getting caught in possession.
Hogg is the next Calamity Caldwell. I really think Hughes has buttoned his shirt up wrong making Hogg captain.
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Muscled out the way by Samaras for the goal, and another all-round shaky performance. I'd love to see Murray alongside Bamba for the Hamilton game.
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He needs replaced thats for sure, Murray is probably the best option. Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
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Interesting observation, it was the same last year with Jones. Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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Often Jones took the smaller player instead of Hogg, but more worrying for me was McDonald outjumoed Bamba a couple of times today.
Centre backs were poor today.........
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30-08-2009 04:24 PM #19Left by mutual consent!
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He is a weak link and getting weaker.A really poor decision by Yogi to play him and incomprehensible to make him captain. Originally Posted by Walkerbaws
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Anyone else got any opinions on Yogi's thinking?
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Yip, i think it was a mistake to make him captain, and a mistake to play him, although with ian murray free from suspension, he has a ready made replacement. Today also showed he is not afraid to admit his mistakes, by replacing Maka with Stack. Originally Posted by Hibs Spain
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30-08-2009 04:33 PM #21First Team Breakthrough
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Woeful, generally. Originally Posted by Walkerbaws
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30-08-2009 04:40 PM #22Left by mutual consent!
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You know,I have to agree with you there.As we'll all discover when we see who's in goals for our next game! Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteYip, i think it was a mistake to make him captain, and a mistake to play him, although with ian murray free from suspension, he has a ready made replacement. Today also showed he is not afraid to admit his mistakes, by replacing Maka with Stack.
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You know there are occasions when you have got to give SOME credit to the opposition and realise that not every goal scored against us was the result of defensive weakness!
Samaras is a big guy who is good in the air and in general I thought he had a great game today.
I'd rather leave it at that than lambasting our own players.
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Hogg has, without doubt, had a poor start to the season. It may well pan out to be bad move making him captain. However, I think the guy is decent SPL player and has shown himself to be a model pro (obviously party why he got the armband). He does not deserve some of the abuse he's been getting and would maybe benefit form a bit more support form the fans instead.
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30-08-2009 05:56 PM #26Left by mutual consent!
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He's actually gash..
Takes zero responsibility when on the ball, use of the ball is woeful, positional sense is nonexistent and gets muscled out of far too much..
He is the weakest link..
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30-08-2009 06:05 PM #27
And a quick trawl through the thread reveals........the usual "suspects"
and BT
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30-08-2009 06:53 PM #28Testimonial Due
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dear oh dear. he was awful, by far the worst hibs player today. Originally Posted by hibee_girl
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get him dropped murray and bambas pls
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30-08-2009 07:02 PM #29Left by mutual consent!
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Since Hogg has been made captain , his form has went down the toilet.. It's a shame as he should be stepping up to the plate now he has the armband... Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteYip, i think it was a mistake to make him captain, and a mistake to play him, although with ian murray free from suspension, he has a ready made replacement. Today also showed he is not afraid to admit his mistakes, by replacing Maka with Stack.
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30-08-2009 07:05 PM #30Left by mutual consent!
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Samarass was brilliant today but Hughes made a massive mistake by allowing Hogg to mark him.... Originally Posted by finhq031
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When the team sheets were swapped before the game surely the message would've been Bamba was marking Samarass and Hogg was marking McDonald??????
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