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    Warning to all fans on Buses

    This is a warning to all fans on buses tomorrow .. (just recieved this from VOSA)

    the police will be doing random spot checks and pulling coaches off the road at any point between Edinburgh and Bolton, as well as the usual Vehicle and tachograph checks we will be checking who is on board as well checking if anyone is carrying alcohol. Alchohol testing kits to check "juice" bottles will be readily available.

    Passengers found to be in possesion of any alchohol will be arrested, further sanctions including fines for drivers, companies and organisers may be administered, with the possibility of the vehicles being prevented from continuing their journey.


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    I know this info has been passed directly to a number of companies

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    When I was getting a bus a few months ago, to go to Twickenham for the Scotland Rugby match, we were told we could take our drinks with us as the buses were, strictly speaking, "private hire", even though we paid 50p a head to get on.

    So, is this no-alcohol rule just in Scotland, or was the info we got wrong?

    actually, I was a bit hacked off, as I had just necked my pint in a hurry, could have taken my time...
    Alcohol IS the answer, but I forget the question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by surreyhibbie View Post
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    When I was getting a bus a few months ago, to go to Twickenham for the Scotland Rugby match, we were told we could take our drinks with us as the buses were, strictly speaking, "private hire", even though we paid 50p a head to get on.

    So, is this no-alcohol rule just in Scotland, or was the info we got wrong?

    I think you may have got the wrong info on that one.

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    Maybe the driver just fancied the girlies with us!
    Alcohol IS the answer, but I forget the question...

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    In my rugby playing days we never even thought about getting on the bus without a carry-out. This rule only seems to apply to football buses - pretty sure the Biggar area used to be a hot-spot for them catching buses with bevvy on them.

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    this is the legal legislation

    VOSA website

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    DAMN!!! - My masterplan to turn up at 8am with 2 bottles of "Coke" has been foiled by those scoundrels!!!

    Seriously, if the idea of being obliged to go without a drink between the hours of 8am-12 noon enrages you, you should probably try to sort yourself out. The banter and songs will be more than good enough for me - oh, and the improving literature I'll be bringing with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
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    This is a warning to all fans on buses tomorrow .. (just recieved this from VOSA)

    the police will be doing random spot checks and pulling coaches off the road at any point between Edinburgh and Bolton, as well as the usual Vehicle and tachograph checks we will be checking who is on board as well checking if anyone is carrying alcohol. Alchohol testing kits to check "juice" bottles will be readily available.

    Passengers found to be in possesion of any alchohol will be arrested, further sanctions including fines for drivers, companies and organisers may be administered, with the possibility of the vehicles being prevented from continuing their journey.
    Glad to see the police are in touch with the important issues in Britain today.

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    Rule #9,152,956 on how to waste police resource. All for 2,000 football fans travelling to a charity football match.

    Although I did read in the paper that the police had stated that they had information that the casuals were going to fight at X location. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but why would they tell people where they expect them to be or is it a double bluff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody1985 View Post
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    Rule #9,152,956 on how to waste police resource. All for 2,000 football fans travelling to a charity football match.

    Although I did read in the paper that the police had stated that they had information that the casuals were going to fight at X location. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but why would they tell people where they expect them to be or is it a double bluff?
    Police intelligence is surely an oxymoron?

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    I was led to believe drinking in a private hired bus on scottish roads was not illegal? not sure about England?!

    Ill be in the car with my dad kindly driving so will have a couple of sneaky bottles on the way down - dark tinted windows in the back so i'll be nicely concealed!

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    2 coaches for edinburgh west tomorrow,

    as Baldy said no drink at all on the bus please,

    there will be checks by baldy and the other driver,

    if you hve alcohol or try to get on the bus with it you will be left behind,

    this is a serious issue tomorrow so please banter and a can assure you a sing song!! is enough

    cheers guy's lee,

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    what a total joke. a scandal tbh this sounds like a near military operation you'd think they were intercepting drug dealers or something.

    sympathy to the PCs on the ground who have to carry out these ludicrous orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsdaft View Post
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    what a total joke. a scandal tbh this sounds like a near military operation you'd think they were intercepting drug dealers or something.

    sympathy to the PCs on the ground who have to carry out these ludicrous orders.
    Sympathy my Ar$e! what do you think happens to all the confiscated booze? straight in the back of their Range Rover mate.

    Seen it more than once.

    Safer not to bother guys!
    Alcohol IS the answer, but I forget the question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonhibs View Post
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    DAMN!!! - My masterplan to turn up at 8am with 2 bottles of "Coke" has been foiled by those scoundrels!!!

    Seriously, if the idea of being obliged to go without a drink between the hours of 8am-12 noon enrages you, you should probably try to sort yourself out. The banter and songs will be more than good enough for me - oh, and the improving literature I'll be bringing with me.
    Being obliged to go with or without a drink is not the issue. I'm not going to judge someone for whatever preference they have. But this is rediculous. U.K. is certainly a police state.
    And what if you're carrying alcohol but not drinking it ?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasHibby View Post
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    Being obliged to go with or without a drink is not the issue. I'm not going to judge someone for whatever preference they have. But this is rediculous. U.K. is certainly a police state.
    And what if you're carrying alcohol but not drinking it ?......
    If you mean carrying it on the bus then I assume they'll take it or they might not be arsed with the agro and let you keep it.

    If you mean walking along the street when I was walking back from the cup final they made me pour the can I was drinking down the drain and let me keep the rest (unopened).

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    Hmm I'm having trouble with that link, so a question.

    If, for example, you are carrying an unopened (ie sealed) bottle of vodka, can they confiscate it?

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    Its pathetic to be honest.

    I wouldfeel like a twat workin for the ob takin samples out of a juice bottle on th motorway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nando™ View Post
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    Hmm I'm having trouble with that link, so a question.

    If, for example, you are carrying an unopened (ie sealed) bottle of vodka, can they confiscate it?

    yes ANY alcohol will be confiscated

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    i am with Surreyhibbie on this one.
    I run a 52 Seater from Bath to Cardiff for the Rugby (our 3rd 3ear) and I specify a Coach with a Bog as we will have Bevvy on board.
    Not once has any of the Carriers had a problem with us
    I think it could be lose interpretation of the Law, ie like stopping Miners on the Motorway many years ago.

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    yes ANY alcohol will be confiscated
    That's poor.

    Awwell, plenty boozers in Bolton.


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    Disgusting stuff and shows the kind of authoritarian state we're drifting towards.

    But no skin of my nose to sit for four hours without alcohol.






    They, erm, didn't say anything about caravans and heroin, did they?

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    if this is a designated sporting event then the law bans the carrying of acohol on coaches taking folk to it. There are similar laws on both sides of the border but presume the match would need to be designated under both jurisdictions or you'd be ok on one side of the border but not the other

    Think it was the Criminal Justice Scotland Act that brought in this and all the stuff about being drunk at matches, drinking while in sight of the pitch etc and down south the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol) Act came along later

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    Just as well we are going by train then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogga's Bounce View Post
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    Just as well we are going by train then
    They'll have police on the train.

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    dont see why people are over reacting to this. if you travel on a supporters bus to football in scotland you would know that alcohol is banned from being on board, drinking it or not!

    plenty drinking time before the match when you get down there.

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    I love this country, where a mans home is his castle, and the state can dictate what and when you drink.

    Fascists!! All hate to the state!!!

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    Are you not posting information what is the law?

    After reading through these posts, and in my interpretation, it looks like the norm is to take alcohol on the buses.... OH those were the days.

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