Last season I missed out on one trip to Ibrox and one at Tynecastle, but fortunately was able to acquire tickets for both games from a friend who had a spare and one from a spare ticket thread.
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I just find it abit odd to be banging on about the cost when we have no idea what it is. It might be £50 a week for all we know which is nothing in reality.
Where do you draw the line if every penny spent should go to the first team? Should Hibs stop getting involved in community outreach programs as they undoubtedly have a cost?
If it suits people’s argument, or own situation, then they’d probably argue yes to this.
Every time this debate crops up the same people argue the same point and It’ll generally suit their point of view or whether or not there is a benefit to them in having or not having such a scheme.
As others have pointed out, I find it strange that other clubs in our league can run a points scheme successfully without all the talk of costs, elite groups etc.
I agree with you, the cost is probably not what’s stopping the club from implementing a scheme.
However, every time HSL gets mentioned we’re told that every penny counts!
I don’t know where to draw the line. Personally I’m not really into the whole community club stuff so if we can save money there I’m all for it! I think the Hibernian Community Trust is completely separate from the club though other than them getting space in the south stand?
BHFC, you’re totally wrong if you’re referring to me? I don’t have strong feelings either way about a loyalty scheme.
If the club club bring one in then great, if they don’t, well it doesn’t affect me in the slightest.
I think I’m still allowed to discuss the point though?
I wonder how Aberdeen and Hearts are able to run such a scheme with these prohibitive costs. It's very strange that they do this knowing the impact it has on the football budget.
Either they are happy to run such a scheme knowing the costs will impact their playing budget but do it anyway or such prohibitive costs don't actually exist. I think most people will be able to draw their own conclusions as to what the correct answer is :wink:.
The system only works for me because I'm lucky enough to get tickets from a player, otherwise I imagine that I would have missed a few more like MWHIBEES (I think) has. I know I'm fortunate to have the benefit that I don't need to worry about tickets but even then still I'm still right behind an attendance points system because it's much fairer.
Given sales are now only online or via the call centre surely the TO must be saving money as they don't need to hire extra staff (including stewards) to cater for the large queues that used to gather at ER. Could this money not be used for any points system introduced.
Heats scheme is well run and easily understood by all their supporters. My brother is a season ticket holder and has been for about 40 years or so. He cannot get a ticket for ER because he no longer goes to away games and therefore doesn't have enough points. Why a system like this can't be done for us is utterly baffling.
When the old points system was abandoned, the first game I missed out on was the cup game at Hearts in 2017. First Scottish cup tie I had missed in 36/years.
I went radge and on these pages suggested I might consider telling HSL to forget my perpetual subs. A heated moment that I never went through with, but my rage was met with sarcasm and scorn by a poster, prominent on this thread, who now seems to believe that a points system will divert funds from the playing budget.
At that stage, the lack of a points system was about to do just that. In my case.
I spoke to Leanne at the time (she in fact, called me) and was left in no doubt that the main reason the system was pulled was down to several complaints, of differing degree of politeness, about the decision to give HSL members an extra 100 points therefore taking them up the tier rating. Tier rating that was pivotal to getting tickets for the big ones.
Pitiful stuff. I never asked for anything extra and in return lost what I had.
I still had close to 700 points showing on my Club ticket log in and I’ve never heard a convincing argument for its abolition. Those who go no further than EH7 to watch the Hibs appear to be the most vocal about its cost to the club.
Thing is, it’s not down to people posting on here, it’s the club’s decision.
The fact that a few posters on here are maybe against a scheme is completely irrelevant.
Let's be honest, most people want a system that suits them. And there's no agreement on what benefits the system is trying to achieve. That's the biggest problem.
That leads to complaints, bickering, debates about long term ST holders v new ST holders, and ultimately club resource spent dealing with it.
FWIW, I agree with many posters that the Hearts system is fair and means those who go get first dibs (in my case that would mean I'd miss out but that's fair because I only get to a dozen or so games a year). Unfortunately not everyone has that view and for now the club seem to have concluded that it's not worth it.
The cost argument is a red herring as it’s functionality is already built in to the Ticketmaster system that the club use and is entirely automatic, bar the physical act of typing one number in to a box when setting the fixture up on the system. There’s not even a need to check back when selling the tickets via the call centre and online has been the case recently. Works fine at other clubs and I’ve never known such an issue to cause such a consistent level of bad PR for the club apart from maybe the catering.
I think it’s regular away travellers that want the away ticketing system that suits them and quite right too.
This isn’t about ST holders and never should have been.
ST holder is only a starter for 10 until he travels.
The bickering comes about as we try to introduce brain surgery into the process of clipping ones fingernails.
What I’m saying is that they won’t not bring back a loyalty scheme based on 1 or 2 folk on here questioning it.
They clearly don’t value the opinions on here or they’d have brought it back no?
I just don’t see why you’re trying to pick an argument with other fans when your gripe is with the club?
Correct - and also there is no doubt that if we had a loyalty points system in place the crowds for the recent Aberdeen and Ross County cup games at Easter Road would also have been higher than they were.
The lack of a loyalty point system is costing the club money.