Why would you reach an out of court settlement, and non-profit disclosure agreement, if you're innocent?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45698134
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Why would you reach an out of court settlement, and non-profit disclosure agreement, if you're innocent?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45698134
After seeing what false rape allegations have done to peoples life’s before, who knows?
The settlement is nothing to him maybe he thought it was worth it instead of the guilty until proven innocent and even then still a bit guilty attitude of rape allegations.
Serious question and not meant to be defamatory in any way, but has it ever been established that he actually likes women? If not it will be one hell of a defence.
Because you are rich and can afford to, and maybe, just maybe, you know that you met and slept with this woman and maybe, just maybe, you know that your actions that day/night could very well be interpreted as "rape", so best to pay her off to drop charges against you and hopefully stop potentially damaging news being broadcast to the world.
Only Ronaldo and the woman concerned really know what exchange took place between them.
Only he knows exactly why he decided to pay her off.
This is his girlfriend;
https://goo.gl/images/wrRrg1
This is the first thing I thought. I get that in an ideal world you wouldn’t want the whole thing going on at all but he’s maybe just thought it would be easier and less damaging than going through a court case and still being Ronaldo the rapist afterwards no matter the outcome (which to loads of people he would be). Graham Stack used to get called a beast everywhere he went and was also innocent (or possibly not proven?)
I seem to remember he went to court on a rape charge when he was at Man Utd but was found not guilty.
Rape ruins lives as well.
Nothing in her story sounds unbelievable and more women are coming forward now because they finally have a voice, regardless of any settlement it should be investigated, at the very least other women should be aware that he doesn't take no for an answer.
Horrible subject. Rape and false rape allegations should both carry the highest sentence posible. From what i've seen Ronaldo seems a decent family man. Not that that's stopped others i guess.
Allegedly doesn’t take no for an answer.
From the outside looking in, we’ve got a woman who was happy to settle for money rather than justice. Nine years later she’s back to the papers selling her story for more money again rather than seeking justice. Doesn’t give her a lot of credibility IMO.
Have you actually read the article in Der Spiegel or any of the supporting documents?
The accuser didn’t instigate this. Der Spiegel first reported this last year after discovering documents related to CR and his lawyers leaked by the website Football Leaks. They approached the woman named in the papers and she refused to discuss it but the published anyway withholding her name.
I am no expert on the matter but the tone here isn't the best.
Keep this in mind - https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8077876.html
It’s published in English
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...30634-amp.html
I’m not sure about him being a decent family man. Maybe now but the circumstances surrounding his son’s birth and custody are a bit weird. Somebody made a comparison to Michael Jackson about settling out of court. The situation with his son is a bit Michael Jackson/Debbie Rowe-esque.
When Zidane and then Ronaldo left Madrid,
Two strange decisions.........:cb
allegations of rape, tax avoidance, is there anything money cant buy freedom for.
Have you actually read the article or any of the supporting documents?
She didn't wait until now, the crime was reported to LVPD the morning after the alleged incident where she was examined by a medical expert specialising in this type of crime who recorded injuries consistent with someone who had been anally raped.
You are reading about it now because Ronaldo's representatives broke the conditions of the NDA which has allowed her to discuss what happened.
Research for the Home Office suggests that only 4 per cent of cases of sexual violence reported to the UK police are found or suspected to be false. Studies carried out in Europe and in the US indicate rates of between 2 per cent and 6 per cent.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8077876.html
As if Ronaldo is going to rape a woman never mind anyone
He's got millions of men/women who are going to drop their pants in a second just to spend a couple of minutes with him
Didnae happen
A strange Portuguese man. I hope he did not do what it is alleged he did but he is a very mixed up man.
Imagine your mother saying on a TV documentary that she wished she had aborted him when she was pregnant with him.
I don't know what it is with some Portuguese men but they are weird: Cadete, Mourinho and Ronaldo.
That was a pretty horrific read.
The 2 people who said gold digger, and 'why would he need to rape someone when he is ronlado' clearly didn't read the article, or had a quick glimpse and decided it was too long a read.
Its not an article that proves him guilty, or otherwise. It is however a long detailed account of the night and the ladies actions/life afterwords. It also hints that evidence in existence which would make a pretty damning account for him.
I hope this is not another victim of a powerful person that gets sweeped under the carpet and the truth does come out.
This is the sort of thing that can never end well. If it happened then a young woman’s life has been ruined. If it didn’t then a reputation has been dragged through the dirt needlessly.
I really think that speculation is very dangerous in this instance.
I think that all of these things should be subject to injunctions until someone is proven guilty, whether that be for rape or for false accusation. It's the public circus surrounding these cases that does as much damage as anything else. That said, it's been very important that a public discussion about the subject has taken place, to change social attitudes.
I’m not guessing either way. He’s certainly entitled to the presumption of innocence.
However, you surely can’t take anything to do with ‘CR7’ at face value. He’s one of the most marketed individuals in the world and employs a small army of people to manage his public image.
I’m not sure any of us know what he is really like - probably the most accurate guide is his behaviour on the pitch, because there is no real hiding place there.
That's because false allegations of all kinds go unpunished. There have recently been some liars finally getting convicted of making false allegations though but sadly many walk free. But it is something that the Sheriffs are going for and long may it continue.
Don't know if there are any legal experts on here who may be able answer a few questions which occur to me.
If a charge is brought what jurisdiction is there for extraditing him from Italy as a Portuguese citizen to stand trial?
How long would that take?
How long does it take to bring a case like this to court?
I think it may be difficult to carry on his football career while all the above is taking place.
What sort of punishment are we looking at if he is convicted? One year, two, ten,twenty, throw the key away?
There’s a 24 tweet thread on twitter from the journalist @derWinterbach who outlines some
Pretty detailed documents, fact checking and process he has gone through to validate this story..worth reading together with his published article...on the face of it comes over detailed and credible ..
Obviously only one view of the events ....
Did the authorities not believe there was enough evidence to pursue a conviction at the time ?
Sorry I've not read any of the allegations,evidence,or reasoning for accepting the cash settlement.
On a personal note no amount of money would silence me if victim of sexual assault.
From what I've read things don't look good for Ronaldo at all. But until there's a proper trial we don't know.
It'll not take long for the other victims to come forward if there's something in this. Tends to be a pattern of behaviour, especially concerning someone with Ronald's means and opportunity.
I think anyone would say the same, so long as they didn't know what it is lile to be in that situation. Rape victims generally suffer from PTSD, which causes intense feelings of guilt, shame and worthlessness. If the allegations are true, i would doubt that it was the money that silenced her.
Some justice systems are based on the effect on the victim, rather than punishment for the perpetrator.
For example, a case of murder in Masai culture was settled by the murderer giving the victim's family 49 head of cattle. Some Asian systems allow criminals to avoid jail time by compensating the victim practically or financially.
Whilst I'm not advocating that in the West, the concept of "victim impact" has become increasingly important, particularly when considering sentencing. That is a good thing IMO.
Everyone has their own definition of justice. Perhaps some victims of assault and sexual crimes would prefer to be compensated rather than face the ordeal of the court case.
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Having read the article it’s a horrific tale and very upsetting. As a Ronaldo fan I’d love to say it’s not true however these things go above football and idols, he is not above the law and should be punished accordingly if found guilty, if it’s not true unfortunately mud sticks and he will be forever tarnished by this, my own thoughts towards him have certainly changed on reading this article.
I read the start of the article which described the night in question, it’s not good reading at all. However it’s one side of the story and ur opinion of him should really only change if the story is proven true. I can’t stand the guy if I’m honest but we live in a world where u should be innocent until proven guilty.
I was surprised that the figure was as high as 4% to be honest.
I can guarantee you that there are a heck of a lot more men who are never prosecuted for sexual assault or rape than the number of malicious allegations.
But since you're interested in the research's veracity, click on the highlighted words "Home Office" in this article. It fully explains the research.
Read the article first, obviously.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8077876.html
I was on the jury for a rape case over 25 years ago.The victim was a drug addict and had become ill,her boyfriend went to phone an ambulance and another guy took the opportunity among other physical assaults to rape her.There were five women on the jury.At the first round the table they all wanted to acquit,mainly because they considered her a low life.One guy sat reading his paper in the jury room and refused to take part because he wasn’t interested.
The matter of corroboration was informative.Obviously in most cases there are only two people present.In this one there was the account of the victim plus the other physical injuries casting doubt on consensual sex and and forensic evidence that there were other injuries which were often seen in rape cases.In other words it wasn’t just a “he said,she said” situation and corroborated evidence doesn’t have to mean someone else who saw it.
Anyway the women on the jury after a few hours were finally convinced that not liking someone’s lifestyle was good enough reason to let a rapist off. Needless to say after the verdict it was disclosed he had form and the Sheriff sent him to the High Court for sentencing.
Looks like the police department have reopened the case.
I think I read something saying she would not name the perpetrator at the time for fear of repercussions.
Overall, this story does seem to be gaining some legs. With the sense of entitlement that (some) young, rich, sports stars have, it would not be a surprise at all if this happened IMO.
Perhaps that was just it? He wasn't used to a woman saying no to him and he didn't like it?
BTW I'm not saying that is or isn't what happened, obviously the only 2 people who know exactly what took place that night are this woman and Ronaldo, I'm just saying that just because you are an attractive person with a lot of fame and wealth who wont struggle to find people wanting to sleep with him doesn't mean you are incapable of doing these things. Rape is not always about sex, sometimes it's about things like power, annoyance at someone saying no to you etc.
When people hear famous footballers accused of rape, so many are quick to spit out the "awck just another gold digger looking for a big pay out". Yes, there are SOME woman out there who have played the rape/sexual assault against rich footballers in aim of trying to get a settlement or a bit of fame but there are a lot of genuine cases out there and the fact so many people are quick to brandish the "gold digger" label, there are probably a lot more victims out there that have actually said nothing in fear of being labelled that.
Article is a bit mental to say the least, some properly damning stuff in there.
Similarly though some grey areas too.
Ronaldo also has previous, with a "rape" claim against him back in October 2005 when he was a 20 year old with Man United.
Quote from The Guardian 25th Nov 2005:
"Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo will not face criminal charges over allegations that he raped a woman in a London hotel, police said last night. Ronaldo, 20, was questioned last month after two women made an allegation of rape against him and another man.
The Portuguese winger has denied the accusations.
A spokeswoman for Scotland Yard said the decision was made after the crown prosecution service had decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute"
[QUOTE=Lennon's Lip;5566356]Ronaldo also has previous, with a "rape" claim against him back in October 2005 when he was a 20 year old with Man United.
Quote from The Guardian 25th Nov 2005:
"Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo will not face criminal charges over allegations that he raped a woman in a London hotel, police said last night. Ronaldo, 20, was questioned last month after two women made an allegation of rape against him and another man.
The Portuguese winger has denied the accusations.
[COLOR=#ff0000]A spokeswoman for Scotland Yard said the decision was made after the crown prosecution service had decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute[B]"
Or you could say - Ronaldo has previous for doing nothing wrong at all.
[QUOTE=Newry Hibs;5566362]Previous as in: He has previous claims against him.
One claim against you might be dismissed, with the benefit of the doubt given, but 2 claims of rape suggests perhaps something a bit more sinister and warrants a deeper investigation.
Anyone else got unproven rape allegations against them on here?
Seems to be a common thing