http://www.hibsrumours.co.uk/
Mustapha Riga ex Bolton. Hmm
Been mustapha regal lately watching hibs :greengrin
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http://www.hibsrumours.co.uk/
Mustapha Riga ex Bolton. Hmm
Been mustapha regal lately watching hibs :greengrin
Gary Twigg aswell
Farad el alagui. Falkirk after 100k.
Stephen Hughes.
Jamie murphy, well after 400k plus add ons
I actually heard from my work mate that we were looking at an ex Bolton winger and he was on trial not sure if its ball locks or not though
Dougie Imrie + Nicky Riley ?
On wikipedia
On 28th September 2011 he played as a trialist, along with QPR's Lee Cook for Nottingham Forest's reserve team Expecting to sign for Hibernian FC of Edinburgh during the January transfer window.
Never one to be overly negative about the Hibs, but if the names being bandied about are Hibs' masterplan to get us out of this mess, then I'm genuinely concerned about our SPL status. There is not one of them that doesn't scream out 'much the same standard as we've been signing for the last 5 years', and as such we really can't expect an upturn in performances.
Come on Hibs, this is your one chance to put things right, to excite the fans, to save the season, to put a product on the park to reverse the slide and get punters buying season tickets again for next season.
For God's sake, don't **** it up by repeating the same mistakes again and again and again.
That's the thing about football though mate; You could have a player who isn't highly rated in the championship or league 1/2 come to the SPL and become and instant hit. Or, with the case of Kris Boyd for example, a player he scores for fun in the SPL move to the Championship and basically turns into Fernando Torres or Andy Carroll.
I say give them a chance to see what they can do, if it turns out we've made a mistake I sure hope Hibs learn from it
Murphy absolutely no chance in hell that will happen. Worth double that and some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus
Let's get real here . Yes it's good to hope
Hibs have been making the mistake for a good few seasons now and they are not working out. Hibs have been relegated in recent times and should have learned from it then. With the possibility of relegation being so real, Hibs cant 'hope for the best' with some of these players. You are right that in football some things dont turn out right, but would you say there is more chance of a lower league player in England not making it at hibs or a player that comes with pedigree and experience? I would say that for every 10 players we buy from the lower leagues about only 1 really make it, the rest get moved on quick. When you look over the seasons at when Hibs have spent money to get players or when they sign someone with pedigree it normally works out.
This is not a time to be taking chances on players that may be alright in the SPL, this is the time that we take chances on players that will more than likely play well in this league.
I'm not sure why you suddenly expect things to change, Matty.
We were at danger of relegation last January and while we signed a few players, it was loans and 6-18 month contracts in the main. We needed drastic surgery in the summer and it was loans and short-term contracts again.
There was lots of chat about how we needed an inspirational new manager to unite the fans. When Fenlon was first mentioned, we responded with a collective 'meh'. He may turn out to be the right appointment but it's debatable whether he's inspirational.
There isn't the will or the ability within the Board to change the way that the club operates IMHO.
This site is total rubbish. It was split half and half between those who believed that Hibs were about to be bought over by Red Bull, yet it was classed as "unbelievable" that Towell was leaving :confused:
As a team we are riddled with below average players and it would be the utmost folly to take chances with players that are not at least of SPL quality. We are in the last chance saloon and the next month will show the level of ambition of the board, get it wrong and we will be in the SFL for years make no mistake. My bet is they will go for lower league players as the board have shown in the past this is where value can be had but this is not the time to gamble .
It's nowhere near 1 in 10 players who make it at Hibs. Stokes was the last player who 'made it'.
The rest come, play or don't play, then drift off in to even lower reaches of football.
It's ever decreasing circles in terms of recruitment and has been since Stokes.
I would love us to sign this Mustapha Riga chap. Check out a few youtube videos of him, the guy looks outstanding! Brilliant skill, control and finishing. Doubt we'd be able to get a guy of this kind of quality but he could be a potential hero if we did..
:agree:
Winning will excite the fans, and to do that we need the players the manager wants, not some name that will spike interest in the short term, but do nothing for us if they aren't the right player.
I couldn't care less who the players are, where they've come from or how good their websites are... As long as they win!
In an ideal world I'd agree with you Scott, but can you honestly say that our signing policy has been anywhere close to a success over the last few years? It's been seriously flawed and it's left us with a number of sub-standard players, and players who we've had to release and replace over and over.
It's a false economy - rather than continually spending a decent amount on average players, we should spend a bit more on players we can either keep on at the club for a few years, or sell to be able to re-invest.
People keep saying we should be looking around the lower reaches of England, top of Ireland and possibly Scottish Leagues for potential.
With the exception of Deek and John Rankine who have we signed from the SPL over the last few years. I believe we need some experienced players who have developed at other SPL clubs and would see Hibs as a step up to form a core of the side and add existing/new signings to this.
So do we offer an SPL club £500k for one of their better performers and double their wages for 3 years? We'd need to do this for 3 or 4 players. Or do we just look for out of contract "stars" and offer better wages than their current team or any other team that wants them. We could suddenly increase the debt by £3-4m with no guarantee of success. I can't see that that is the best way forward. We've got posters on here who reckon our team is full of duds. Would 7 duds and 4 decent players make us better to watch?
We would not need to pay £500k for most of these players. The likes of Danny Swanston is out of contract in the summer which means he would cost nothing like £500k. What our team is lacking is leadership and a solid spine. We can only get this by signing experienced players and building around it. The likes of McPake has been bandied around for £150k, has SPL experience, so would fit the bill. An Ian Black type of player is essential for our midfield, doubt he would cost £500k when Eggert Johnson went for £300,000 so you don't need to spend millions on SPL players to improve our side.
As I have mentioned on other threads, unlike most of our competitors, we very rarely sign players from other SPL teams a market we know but seem to get players who are unproven.
In answer to your final point, it might not make us a better team to watch in the short term but it may keep us up which is our short term objective.
If you're going as far back as Rankin (January 2008):
Ian Murray
Colin Nish
Sol Bamba
Mark Brown
Michael Hart
Liam Miller
Anthony Stokes
Kevin McBride
Patrick Cregg
Garry O'Connor
Ivan Sproule
Were all proven SPL players signed by Hibs (at least to some extent). Some of them were signed directly from other SPL clubs.
No I don't, but then in the past we've out to sign 'names' from big clubs that people got excited over till they tried to kick / catch a ball (O'Brien, Maka et all), or signed players from total obscurity who people have written off before they've even been on a pitch (Sproule, Boozy etc) and turned out to be fantastic.
My point was that a signing in itself isn't inspirational if they don't perform. If we sign players who do the job, it doesn't matter if they've come from Manchester United or Albion Rovers, they will only inspire the fans if they perform.
For me our ultimate aim should be to pick up the gems from the lower levels, as other clubs often do, particularly Hearts and Dundee United, as that's where the resale value is, spending a bit more than we are now, you're still looking at players who have failed at a higher level and are floating back down. I'd much prefer a team of hungry young guys on the way up. The Liam Miller type player is rarely going to be an asset to sell, and comes with a truck load of baggage.
[QUOTE=Ryan69;3063206]Think youll find that only OP believed it.
If you dont like .net.....You know what todo![/QUOTE
No I didnt believe it, I just wanted to make a joke about needing a ciggy whilst watchin Hibs. The site is a RUMOURS site and most should be taken with a pinch of salt, but rumours are exactly what it says on the tin.
Our Scouting network really needs to be looked at indeed!
Stokes cost money as well.
Not that there is anything wrong with frees, given that we can afford to pay them higher wages we should be able to attract a better player than spending some of that budget on a transfer fee...
Fees are irrelevant these days when it comes to Hibs bringing in players. We might pay them to buy out the end of a player's contract during the January window (eg. Nish), or maybe a development fee when signing an out of contract youngster, but outwith that they don't really apply to the market we're in. Players who are contracted to other clubs and are "catching the eye" generally run down their contracts meaning they can move for free and get a better deal (more dosh) for themselves or they are sold to English teams where they will be paid far more than we can afford.
The majority of teams in the SPL are in the same boat. The Bosman ruling, although fair, has ruined the game in Scotland due to our tv revenue being miniscule compared to other leagues.
Mindungous (sic) been dumped after one training session, move ruled out for Blackman. No o,Connor bids.
From twitter.
I think we all need to get real on signing policy. Neither Hibs or any other Scottish team (maybe except for Celtic) can or will pay any transfer fee (apart from a nominal sum). Yes, there has been poor signings in the past but that's where the manager earns his money buy having a good network and ability to spot something in a player and develop his potential. This will mean looking at guys in lower English leagues or top Irish teams because these players will be afordable. There is absolutely no point in busting the wage structure and returning to the big cuts to the budget we endured post the McCleish era. Sorry we have to get real.
He would well be worth a punt imo, scored something crazy for Falkirk like 19 goals in 22 games (including 2 against Rangers and 1 against United). Only on a 1 year deal with Falkirk so could get him on a precontract then offer a little bit of cash.
Obviously he would be making a step up to the SPL but he has been banging them in, and I also saw him against United in their cup game and he was excellent, gave their CBs a difficult time for the entire game.
We're in advanced talks with FC Bochum's Guy Withbeerdt who plays at CentreBack.
No be a close shave if we get him speedersQuote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
That's a bit of a personal question is it not crops. (I had a look but couldn't find nowt.) ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
Soccer sauce??? Is staying on Twitter that Gary Twigg is PF top target.
Must be in a par with Football rumours website.
Apparantly the Lith guy is 6 to 8 weeks short of being match fit. Hence he won't be signing.
Maybe cos you've been grumpy??? Only what I been reading mind you (your posts) ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
I'm getting beard of all these puns
Heard we are after canadian international Don Kiddick. :dunno:
Was wondering how long it was before it reared it's head again!! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/7413211/Sutton-to-leave-Hearts
"DAFC are trying to sign James McPake ahead of Hibs" <--- from Mark Benstead's Twitter account ( @markbenstead).
We shall see. Think he would be a very good addition to our team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy
Meant to say both Sutton and McPakw would make good additions.
I agree, we need an inspired signing. One who will inspire the team, provide some skill and confidence and lead the team as well as inspire the fans to come back to ER.
That sort of signing is in the league of Sauzee. We do not have any leaders in the team and whilst i think the issues around full backs, midfielders and strikers are real and need to be tackled the leader on the park is probably the most pressing!
Of course the danger of bringing in a high profile player is that we disturb the balance, but that may not be a bad thing. Another problem could be that person may just end up being a wage thief who is just looking for pocket money.
We could go for Brian Blessed, he meets most criteria I think, and he can't be that far of the required fitness standard, or the giant beardo that plays egg chasing for England - frightens me and probably as good a bet as most of the speculation I have been hearing.
I can't see the club pushing the boat out as it would go against the business model which they seem to adopt. Besides, expericed players and wanted players are not so easy to dig up. Probably a change is needed in approach by the club as we have slipped back into building debt again after 5 good of profit and in which at least in two years we saw some good football.
I beg to wonder what the cost was for changing 9 managers in 10 years, if that is correct and I wonder how the team seems to last 60 minutes before capitualting..........For sure as a club we have done good things to get the infrastructure right but that as many point out has come at a high cost because the end product has steadily got worse and the football management can be questioned! I for one am not expecting big name players. The objective needs to be to steady the ship , stay up and be ready for next season.
Who do you suggest we get then?
Hibs, as with nearly all Scottish clubs, are in a position where they can barely match the wages of the lower leagues of England, let alone make a big signing, but if you make sensible signings, boys who are experienced in the SPL and are hungry to play, things can work (eg Dundee United). Rankin gets a hard time on here, and he wasnt great for us, but all of my United fans love him, say he does all the simple things and runs their midfield. People can argue all they like about him but hes clearly doing well at a much better team than Hibs.
What you dont want is what Hibs have been doing, signing absolute crap from random leagues in Europe, reserve players, boys that are past their best etc.
At the time he went to Killie he was far from a regualr at Metalist and had already been out on loan. The fact he had some kind of pre existing relationship with Mixu probably helped matters too.
I have no idea what Killie paid towards his wages bit Rubin Kazan have serious financial backing and when you look at how much Garry O'Connor was making in Russia its hard to see how Hibs could tempt Eremenko or a similar player.
:agree:looking a long way back, I think that's what built Turbull's team, however things are a bit different now re-agents forcing the issue to get their 10% and bringing players in from anywhere. I dont think any Scottish team manager sits down and says, right: I'm gonna bring in six good quality players from opposing teams, and build a good side for my club, and at the same time demoralise the opposition
What we need is a statement of intent we need to sign SW Back from Wolves RP Get the cheque book out and make a statement.:flag:
that is the 64,000 dollar question and one which managers all over are trying to answer. I accept the ppoint about our ability to pay the wages and i am not suggest we follow the Hearts model but i think there is definitely cause for pushing the boat out and bring in a few quality signings, it sure as hell has not worked out with some of the cheaper ones.
And for the record, i was never a rankin basher i think he did some good work for us.
Mustapha Riga signing to be announced on Monday morning
celtic fan from Dublin here and gary deegan is an in-law and very unhappy @ coventry! heard nutsy fenlon wants to manage him again and gary wants him to!
http://www.hibsrumours.co.uk/index.htm
This has been taken from the football rumours website!!!!!
Is that site not a pile o pants??
We're getting pretty desperate are we not??
FWIW would have them both.