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Pat 0-7
23-05-2013, 01:05 PM
The 1902 thing annoys me when it is implied that we have a poor record in the competition. So I had a look at the history of the Scottish Cup to compare us with other teams, and picked out a few facts that I didn’t know or had forgotten about (apologies if this is old news to everyone else….):

After Sunday, only Smeltic, Rangers (RIP), the tramps (1 more) and Aberdeen (2 more) will have been in more finals.

Of those teams, the first 3 are the only teams to have won more finals than they have lost.

Only the teams above, plus Queens Park, Kilmarnock, St. Mirren and Clyde (and Vale of Leven, if you still count them) have won it more than us. :agree:

A third win on Sunday :pray: would put us joint-6th on the winners list, with Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, Clyde and Vale of Leven. Behind the first 4 teams above, and Queens Park.

Outside the bigot brothers, we have lost more finals than anyone (10):grr:, next is Aberdeen with 8 then Dundee Utd with 7.

There are teams that have to go back further than 1902 for their last win - Dumbarton last won it in 1883, Queens Park in 1893. Although they’re both pretty unlikely to get another win.

Our 1902 victory was at Celtic Park, not Hampden (was supposed to be at Ibrox but was moved due to the first Ibrox disaster a week earlier in a Scotland-England game).

Highest winning margin in the final is 5 goals – Renton 6 Cambuslang 1 (1888), Rangers 5 St. Mirren 0 (1934) and, eh, the 1972 final……… :rolleyes:

Hibs win in 1887 (2-1 v Dumbarton) was on their first appearance in the final. :aok:

The puddle-drinkers biggest defeat was to Rangers in 1996…… 5-1…:na na:

Oh, and at least we have won it – this lot haven't - they lost in the final:

Hamilton (lost 2 finals), Ross County (1), Raith Rovers (1), Albion Rovers (1), Queen of the South (1), Gretna (RIP) (1). :boo hoo:

And this lot have never even made a final:

St. Johnstone, Inverness, Cowdenbeath, Livingston, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Brechin, Forfar, Stenhousemuir, Stranraer, Annan Athletic, Berwick Rangers, East Stirlingshire, Elgin City, Montrose, Peterhead and Stirling Albion. :tee hee:

Teams that have won it and are no longer with us:

Rangers, Third Lanark, Vale of Leven, Renton, St. Bernards and Airdrieonians (…….and soon, maybe, you-know-who………:bye:)

Our records not so bad!!!!

:thumbsup:

Spike Mandela
23-05-2013, 01:09 PM
Hibs....Scottish Cup Winners 2013.......FACT!

Part/Time Supporter
23-05-2013, 01:14 PM
A curious little stat is that Hibs have now played more Scottish Cup games (but not ties) than Hearts. Reflects the fact that (as some of your stats indicate) that Hibs are relatively good at getting to semis and/or finals.

Waxy
23-05-2013, 01:37 PM
I didn't realise that since the 1902 final,we have only beaten celtic once in the cup.
The 4-3 game in the 1986 qf.(what a match that was)
Think we've lost 20 other ties v them since 1902.
Surely this time.Surely.

Onion
23-05-2013, 03:07 PM
The 1902 thing annoys me when it is implied that we have a poor record in the competition. So I had a look at the history of the Scottish Cup to compare us with other teams, and picked out a few facts that I didn’t know or had forgotten about (apologies if this is old news to everyone else….):

After Sunday, only Smeltic, Rangers (RIP), the tramps (1 more) and Aberdeen (2 more) will have been in more finals.

Of those teams, the first 3 are the only teams to have won more finals than they have lost.

Only the teams above, plus Queens Park, Kilmarnock, St. Mirren and Clyde (and Vale of Leven, if you still count them) have won it more than us.

A third win on Sunday :pray: would put us joint-6th on the winners list, with Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, Clyde and Vale of Leven. Behind the first 4 teams above, and Queens Park.

Outside the bigot brothers, we have lost more finals than anyone (10):grr:, next is Aberdeen with 8 then Dundee Utd with 7.

There are teams that have to go back further than 1902 for their last win - Dumbarton last won it in 1883, Queens Park in 1893. Although they’re both pretty unlikely to get another win.

Our 1902 victory was at Celtic Park, not Hampden (was supposed to be at Ibrox but was moved due to the first Ibrox disaster a week earlier in a Scotland-England game).

Highest winning margin in the final is 5 goals – Renton 6 Cambuslang 1 (1888), Rangers 5 St. Mirren 0 (1934) and, eh, the 1972 final……… :rolleyes:

Hibs win in 1887 (2-1 v Dumbarton) was on their first appearance in the final.

The puddle-drinkers biggest defeat was to Rangers in 1996…… 5-1…:na na:

Oh, and at least we have won it – this lot haven't - they lost in the final:

Hamilton (lost 2 finals), Ross County (1), Raith Rovers (1), Albion Rovers (1), Queen of the South (1), Gretna (RIP) (1). :boo hoo:

And this lot have never even made a final:

St. Johnstone, Inverness, Cowdenbeath, Livingston, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Brechin, Forfar, Stenhousemuir, Stranraer, Annan Athletic, Berwick Rangers, East Stirlingshire, Elgin City, Montrose, Peterhead and Stirling Albion. :tee hee:

Teams that have won it and are no longer with us:

Rangers, Third Lanark, Vale of Leven, Renton, St. Bernards and Airdrieonians (…….and soon, maybe, you-know-who………:bye:)

Our records not so bad!!!!



:top marks Good job. Our record in SC Finals is the worst, and what people remember most. One thing I've always thought would be a good way to measure just how bad our SCF record is.. the total number of fans who have attended a SCF without seeing their team win it. So that's your next assignment... including the 1979 replays.... how many Hibs fans have gone along to Hampden since 1902 without seeing us win it. And who has the next worse record ?

Your starter for 10 (see what I did there :greengrin)...

1972 - 35,000 Hibbies at that one.

Hermit Crab
23-05-2013, 03:25 PM
Hibs....Scottish Cup Winners 2013.......FACT!

Not IMO

Up The Bracket
23-05-2013, 05:07 PM
We are a bigger club than all of those teams with worse records though :agree:. Hopefully you'll need to make an update to this post after Sunday.

:pfgwa

hugo boss
23-05-2013, 05:18 PM
The 1902 thing annoys me when it is implied that we have a poor record in the competition. So I had a look at the history of the Scottish Cup to compare us with other teams, and picked out a few facts that I didn’t know or had forgotten about (apologies if this is old news to everyone else….):

After Sunday, only Smeltic, Rangers (RIP), the tramps (1 more) and Aberdeen (2 more) will have been in more finals.

Of those teams, the first 3 are the only teams to have won more finals than they have lost.

Only the teams above, plus Queens Park, Kilmarnock, St. Mirren and Clyde (and Vale of Leven, if you still count them) have won it more than us. :agree:

A third win on Sunday :pray: would put us joint-6th on the winners list, with Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, Clyde and Vale of Leven. Behind the first 4 teams above, and Queens Park.

Outside the bigot brothers, we have lost more finals than anyone (10):grr:, next is Aberdeen with 8 then Dundee Utd with 7.

There are teams that have to go back further than 1902 for their last win - Dumbarton last won it in 1883, Queens Park in 1893. Although they’re both pretty unlikely to get another win.

Our 1902 victory was at Celtic Park, not Hampden (was supposed to be at Ibrox but was moved due to the first Ibrox disaster a week earlier in a Scotland-England game).

Highest winning margin in the final is 5 goals – Renton 6 Cambuslang 1 (1888), Rangers 5 St. Mirren 0 (1934) and, eh, the 1972 final……… :rolleyes:

Hibs win in 1887 (2-1 v Dumbarton) was on their first appearance in the final. :aok:

The puddle-drinkers biggest defeat was to Rangers in 1996…… 5-1…:na na:

Oh, and at least we have won it – this lot haven't - they lost in the final:

Hamilton (lost 2 finals), Ross County (1), Raith Rovers (1), Albion Rovers (1), Queen of the South (1), Gretna (RIP) (1). :boo hoo:

And this lot have never even made a final:

St. Johnstone, Inverness, Cowdenbeath, Livingston, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Brechin, Forfar, Stenhousemuir, Stranraer, Annan Athletic, Berwick Rangers, East Stirlingshire, Elgin City, Montrose, Peterhead and Stirling Albion. :tee hee:

Teams that have won it and are no longer with us:

Rangers, Third Lanark, Vale of Leven, Renton, St. Bernards and Airdrieonians (…….and soon, maybe, you-know-who………:bye:)

Our records not so bad!!!!

:thumbsup: Thin you will find we have been in final 13 times only won 2 and semis 36 and only won 14

hibs4thecup1988
23-05-2013, 05:25 PM
Not IMO

Why? Why? Just why??? Its 3 days before the final. People trying to be positive and you come out with that?

No disrespect mate but go noise up other supporters because anyone that doesn't think we can win on sunday shouldn't be going. Simples

hugo boss
23-05-2013, 05:27 PM
Why? Why? Just why??? Its 3 days before the final. People trying to be positive and you come out with that?

No disrespect mate but go noise up other supporters because anyone that doesn't think we can win on sunday shouldn't be going. Simples Wellsaid mate POSITIVE all the way GGTTH

tartanhibee
23-05-2013, 06:58 PM
Thin you will find we have been in final 13 times only won 2 and semis 36 and only won 14

How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?

adhibs
23-05-2013, 07:01 PM
How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?

14th finals this one

tartanhibee
23-05-2013, 07:03 PM
Got you know

jonny
23-05-2013, 07:04 PM
How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?

Because we won the semi this year but haven't played the final yet?
I really don't know, just a (not very well) educated guess. For the record I like this thread better with the positive slant it had first.
Oh - my bus is number 111, as far as I'm concerned that's all I need to be convinced it's our year. So the record will soon stand at 3 wins.

greenlex
23-05-2013, 07:04 PM
How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?
We have still got one to go Dafty. :greengrin

theonlywayisup
23-05-2013, 07:11 PM
FACTS!! Sunday will be my third SC Final. Third time lucky :pray:

theonlywayisup
23-05-2013, 07:13 PM
How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?

:hahaha:

ruthven_raiders
23-05-2013, 07:19 PM
14th finals this one

Is this not our 13th SC final 10 defeats and 2 wins so far?

hibs4thecup1988
23-05-2013, 07:38 PM
How could we have won 14 semi-finals but only been in 13 finals?

:faf:

tartanhibee
23-05-2013, 07:45 PM
For everyone laughing at my stupidity this is our 13th final 1887,1896,1902,1914,1923,1924,1947,1958,1972,1979, 2001,2012,2013.

2 wins

10 defeats

So we can't have won 14 semi-finals FACT

ruthven_raiders
23-05-2013, 07:50 PM
For everyone laughing at my stupidity this is our 13th final 1887,1896,1902,1914,1923,1924,1947,1958,1972,1979, 2001,2012,2013.

2 wins

10 defeats

So we can't have won 14 semi-finals FACT

Well said I got no 13 put on my sons footie top to celebrate this fact and it was his late grandpas fav number and he played for Hibs too.

Hermit Crab
23-05-2013, 07:58 PM
Why? Why? Just why??? Its 3 days before the final. People trying to be positive and you come out with that?

No disrespect mate but go noise up other supporters because anyone that doesn't think we can win on sunday shouldn't be going. Simples

That's my opinion and the last time I checked I was entitled to it. It's a discussion forum after all.

hugo boss
24-05-2013, 10:26 AM
For everyone laughing at my stupidity this is our 13th final 1887,1896,1902,1914,1923,1924,1947,1958,1972,1979, 2001,2012,2013.

2 wins

10 defeats

So we can't have won 14 semi-finals FACT
My apologises it's only 13