Jambo taking over Easter Road helm?

[hibs1989]

Villa fans are SO naive its unreal. McLeish has no allegiance to either club fact they are rivals makes no difference. He has been given a job like a plumber gets a job and he will do his best. He just won a league cup with a team like Birmingham he has managed his country, he led Rangers to trophy’s can someone explain how he doesn’t even deserve a chance not like Villa have done anything in EVER.



McLeish might not be answer in time but surly they are blowing this out of the water.

Being a football manager is just a job just like what everyone here does. If you resigned from your job and went to rival company would you do your job differently NO.



If say now if say in ten years Paul Hartely makes something career wise out of management and say one Div 2 and Div 1 went down to England wont Johnsons Paint Trophy and good cup runs etc then Hibs job came up. How would you react to a CLEARLY PROVEN manager taking over just because he has a past with a rival?

My outlook is no matter what industry you in if you can do the job you are good enough to be there.

RANT over. Question remains.

[Future17]

I liked McLeish as a manager at Easter Road. FWIW, I also agree with the majority of your post, in principle, but envisage this scenario at Hibs:

Having built a good team with a great mix of exciting homegrown talent and established internationals, we are regularly qualifying for Europe and there's talk of us challenging the "big clubs" - if not for the title, then at least for CL qualification.

We have a very highly regarded manager who has helped us achieve this and we are all hoping he gets the financial backing he has earned from our new American owner, whom we are somewhat sceptical about.

Then, just before the new season starts, that manager resigns and it emerges that the primary reason for him leaving was that the owner had failed to provide the required finance to take the club to the next level.

A very popular figure from within our club is appointed as interim manager. He has an excellent reputation for working with youth and brought through all of our young players who are currently brightening up the first team.

Results are mixed at best and include a 6-0 pumping from a newly promoted team who we feel we should be beating. The interim manager doesn't get the job on a permanent basis and leaves the club, meaning we have lost his talents in his previous role of nurtuting youth.

The owner then appoints a foreign manager with a questionable record and dodgy medical history. He also provides little to no finance to bring in new players.

The new manager signs a 38 year old on the brink of retirment who clearly does not have the legs to play at the highest level anymore. He also falls out with several high profile players who are influential within the squad. Performances are poor, results are worse and we are in the wrong half of the table.

Three quarters of the way through the season, our closest rivals win a trophy, beating one of the "big clubs" in the final. We have to sit and watch their celebrations whilst uncertain as to what our club's future holds.

Our club's poor league position has resulted in our brightest young talent being linked with moves to the "big clubs" and it looks as though our dreams from the start of the season are in total ruins.

The manager then suffers heart problems and his future is even more uncertain. His assistant takes the team until the end of the season and we coast along playing essentially meaningless games.

Embarrisngly, the only joy we can derive from the whole season is that our closest rivals have been relegated.

Then...we appoint the manager who was in charge of them when they got relegated, as our new manager. To compound it, there is talk of a £40m "warchest" available to him to strengthen the squad. He has a very poor transfer record.

If the money had been made available to the manager who was in charge at the start of the season, who has a very good transfer record, he probably would have stayed.

If he had stayed, we probably would have finished the season in the European places at least.

If we had done that, we probably would have had a better chance of retaining our young talent.

As it stands, we face starting a new season, having been stripped of our most exciting talent and some of the more experienced players and the rebuilding job is in the hands of a manager who recently got our rivals relegated.

How would you react?

[moredun]

Villa fans are SO naive its unreal. McLeish has no allegiance to either club fact they are rivals makes no difference. He has been given a job like a plumber gets a job and he will do his best. He just won a league cup with a team like Birmingham he has managed his country, he led Rangers to trophy’s can someone explain how he doesn’t even deserve a chance not like Villa have done anything in EVER.



McLeish might not be answer in time but surly they are blowing this out of the water.

Being a football manager is just a job just like what everyone here does. If you resigned from your job and went to rival company would you do your job differently NO.



If say now if say in ten years Paul Hartely makes something career wise out of management and say one Div 2 and Div 1 went down to England wont Johnsons Paint Trophy and good cup runs etc then Hibs job came up. How would you react to a CLEARLY PROVEN manager taking over just because he has a past with a rival?

My outlook is no matter what industry you in if you can do the job you are good enough to be there.

RANT over. Question remains.




Apart from beating Bayern Munich in the European cup final in '82:wink:

The man is clearly disliked, can totally understand why.
He has shaat on every team he has been with, and at the time said team were going backwards.
Relegated twice with Birmingham
Loyalty and respect are not words associated with said judas

[moredun]

I liked McLeish as a manager at Easter Road. FWIW, I also agree with the majority of your post, in principle, but envisage this scenario at Hibs:

Having built a good team with a great mix of exciting homegrown talent and established internationals, we are regularly qualifying for Europe and there's talk of us challenging the "big clubs" - if not for the title, then at least for CL qualification.

We have a very highly regarded manager who has helped us achieve this and we are all hoping he gets the financial backing he has earned from our new American owner, whom we are somewhat sceptical about.

Then, just before the new season starts, that manager resigns and it emerges that the primary reason for him leaving was that the owner had failed to provide the required finance to take the club to the next level.

A very popular figure from within our club is appointed as interim manager. He has an excellent reputation for working with youth and brought through all of our young players who are currently brightening up the first team.

Results are mixed at best and include a 6-0 pumping from a newly promoted team who we feel we should be beating. The interim manager doesn't get the job on a permanent basis and leaves the club, meaning we have lost his talents in his previous role of nurtuting youth.

The owner then appoints a foreign manager with a questionable record and dodgy medical history. He also provides little to no finance to bring in new players.

The new manager signs a 38 year old on the brink of retirment who clearly does not have the legs to play at the highest level anymore. He also falls out with several high profile players who are influential within the squad. Performances are poor, results are worse and we are in the wrong half of the table.

Three quarters of the way through the season, our closest rivals win a trophy, beating one of the "big clubs" in the final. We have to sit and watch their celebrations whilst uncertain as to what our club's future holds.

Our club's poor league position has resulted in our brightest young talent being linked with moves to the "big clubs" and it looks as though our dreams from the start of the season are in total ruins.

The manager then suffers heart problems and his future is even more uncertain. His assistant takes the team until the end of the season and we coast along playing essentially meaningless games.

Embarrisngly, the only joy we can derive from the whole season is that our closest rivals have been relegated.

Then...we appoint the manager who was in charge of them when they got relegated, as our new manager. To compound it, there is talk of a £40m "warchest" available to him to strengthen the squad. He has a very poor transfer record.

If the money had been made available to the manager who was in charge at the start of the season, who has a very good transfer record, he probably would have stayed.

If he had stayed, we probably would have finished the season in the European places at least.

If we had done that, we probably would have had a better chance of retaining our young talent.

As it stands, we face starting a new season, having been stripped of our most exciting talent and some of the more experienced players and the rebuilding job is in the hands of a manager who recently got our rivals relegated.

How would you react?

Great post :aok:

Very well thought out, :top marks

Apart for the part of liking him:wink:

[R'Albin]

I liked McLeish as a manager at Easter Road. FWIW, I also agree with the majority of your post, in principle, but envisage this scenario at Hibs:

Having built a good team with a great mix of exciting homegrown talent and established internationals, we are regularly qualifying for Europe and there's talk of us challenging the "big clubs" - if not for the title, then at least for CL qualification.

We have a very highly regarded manager who has helped us achieve this and we are all hoping he gets the financial backing he has earned from our new American owner, whom we are somewhat sceptical about.

Then, just before the new season starts, that manager resigns and it emerges that the primary reason for him leaving was that the owner had failed to provide the required finance to take the club to the next level.

A very popular figure from within our club is appointed as interim manager. He has an excellent reputation for working with youth and brought through all of our young players who are currently brightening up the first team.

Results are mixed at best and include a 6-0 pumping from a newly promoted team who we feel we should be beating. The interim manager doesn't get the job on a permanent basis and leaves the club, meaning we have lost his talents in his previous role of nurtuting youth.

The owner then appoints a foreign manager with a questionable record and dodgy medical history. He also provides little to no finance to bring in new players.

The new manager signs a 38 year old on the brink of retirment who clearly does not have the legs to play at the highest level anymore. He also falls out with several high profile players who are influential within the squad. Performances are poor, results are worse and we are in the wrong half of the table.

Three quarters of the way through the season, our closest rivals win a trophy, beating one of the "big clubs" in the final. We have to sit and watch their celebrations whilst uncertain as to what our club's future holds.

Our club's poor league position has resulted in our brightest young talent being linked with moves to the "big clubs" and it looks as though our dreams from the start of the season are in total ruins.

The manager then suffers heart problems and his future is even more uncertain. His assistant takes the team until the end of the season and we coast along playing essentially meaningless games.

Embarrisngly, the only joy we can derive from the whole season is that our closest rivals have been relegated.

Then...we appoint the manager who was in charge of them when they got relegated, as our new manager. To compound it, there is talk of a £40m "warchest" available to him to strengthen the squad. He has a very poor transfer record.

If the money had been made available to the manager who was in charge at the start of the season, who has a very good transfer record, he probably would have stayed.

If he had stayed, we probably would have finished the season in the European places at least.

If we had done that, we probably would have had a better chance of retaining our young talent.

As it stands, we face starting a new season, having been stripped of our most exciting talent and some of the more experienced players and the rebuilding job is in the hands of a manager who recently got our rivals relegated.

How would you react?

Good post, really takes things into perspective:agree:

As for the bit in bold though, Sauzee and Latapy?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

As for the bit in bold though, Sauzee and Latapy?

I think hes talking about Villa.

[CmoantheHibs]

I think hes talking about Villa.

I think it was in reference to McLeishes record in the transfer market and pointing out that he also had a few top signings amongst the bad ones.

[Sodje_18]

I liked McLeish as a manager at Easter Road. FWIW, I also agree with the majority of your post, in principle, but envisage this scenario at Hibs:

Having built a good team with a great mix of exciting homegrown talent and established internationals, we are regularly qualifying for Europe and there's talk of us challenging the "big clubs" - if not for the title, then at least for CL qualification.

We have a very highly regarded manager who has helped us achieve this and we are all hoping he gets the financial backing he has earned from our new American owner, whom we are somewhat sceptical about.

Then, just before the new season starts, that manager resigns and it emerges that the primary reason for him leaving was that the owner had failed to provide the required finance to take the club to the next level.

A very popular figure from within our club is appointed as interim manager. He has an excellent reputation for working with youth and brought through all of our young players who are currently brightening up the first team.

Results are mixed at best and include a 6-0 pumping from a newly promoted team who we feel we should be beating. The interim manager doesn't get the job on a permanent basis and leaves the club, meaning we have lost his talents in his previous role of nurtuting youth.

The owner then appoints a foreign manager with a questionable record and dodgy medical history. He also provides little to no finance to bring in new players.

The new manager signs a 38 year old on the brink of retirment who clearly does not have the legs to play at the highest level anymore. He also falls out with several high profile players who are influential within the squad. Performances are poor, results are worse and we are in the wrong half of the table.

Three quarters of the way through the season, our closest rivals win a trophy, beating one of the "big clubs" in the final. We have to sit and watch their celebrations whilst uncertain as to what our club's future holds.

Our club's poor league position has resulted in our brightest young talent being linked with moves to the "big clubs" and it looks as though our dreams from the start of the season are in total ruins.

The manager then suffers heart problems and his future is even more uncertain. His assistant takes the team until the end of the season and we coast along playing essentially meaningless games.

Embarrisngly, the only joy we can derive from the whole season is that our closest rivals have been relegated.

Then...we appoint the manager who was in charge of them when they got relegated, as our new manager. To compound it, there is talk of a £40m "warchest" available to him to strengthen the squad. He has a very poor transfer record.

If the money had been made available to the manager who was in charge at the start of the season, who has a very good transfer record, he probably would have stayed.

If he had stayed, we probably would have finished the season in the European places at least.

If we had done that, we probably would have had a better chance of retaining our young talent.

As it stands, we face starting a new season, having been stripped of our most exciting talent and some of the more experienced players and the rebuilding job is in the hands of a manager who recently got our rivals relegated.

How would you react?

:top marks Great post, can really make you relate :agree:

[Ryan69]

Appreciate what your saying. However NOBODY does loyalty like Judas himself!

Did very similar to ourselves!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I think it was in reference to McLeishes record in the transfer market and pointing out that he also had a few top signings amongst the bad ones.

We've never had an American owner tho and quite sure hes referring to O'Neill at the start of the scenario.

[Future17]

Great post :aok:

Very well thought out, :top marks

Apart for the part of liking him:wink:

I said "liked". :greengrin


Good post, really takes things into perspective:agree:

As for the bit in bold though, Sauzee and Latapy?

Sorry, should have been clearer. I was referring to his transfer record when given decent money to spend (i.e. how is he likely to utilise this rumoured £40m?). So, basically, his transfer record at Birmingham.

The fans will tell you that his spending was categorised by paying medium sized fees (in Premiership terms) for mediocre players, like Michel and Zigic.

Compared to O'Neill at Villa, who signed Ashley Yong, Stewart Downing, Stillyan Petrov, James Collins etc.

I have just remembered that I forgot to cover the signing of Darren Bent by Villa in January - another example of money which could have been provided to O'Neill.

[marleyhib]

I like McLeish, decent enough manager but if I was a Villa fan I would want someone who was going to get them into Europe - pretty uninspired appointment from Learner but then again appointing Houlier showed he knows the square root of jack all about football - dull dull club hope they get relegated